Right Melinda. Now think about why that is happening and has been happening for more than 10 years. It's not an accident, Melinda. Other nonprofits don't have this set of problems. It's because the undermining of the governance system and the eventual breakup of the network have been the goal for many years. That is why you keep a Lonnie Hicks in place, even as he drives away one ED after another, including Greg Guma and Nicole Sawaya, both of whom were competent people and could have helped Pacifica and intended to. That is why a competent lawyer like Dan Siegel engages in the equivalent of legal hari-kiri by representing all sides (and no sides) all at once and specifically testifying to throw the Hicks case on purpose. That is why you prevent WBAI from ever escaping from a payroll and rent and tower lease that crushed it to death and rendered it a helpless liability when it was once the crown jewel of the network. Think about how you got here, who got you here and more importantly, how you are going to get out of it. That's what focusing means and the inability to do it is why Pacifica never escapes the vise.